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- | By looking at the digital loopback time and frequency domain of the signal we are sending, we can see even after 300 years, the math holds up. (The time domain signal looks like only one (green = '' | + | By looking at the digital loopback time and frequency domain of the signal we are sending, we can see even after 300 years, the math holds up. (The time domain signal looks like only one (green = '' |
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===== Sending the data ===== | ===== Sending the data ===== | ||
- | We can send that out the RF, by disabling loopback and setting the Rx and Tx LO to the same value. The results shown during the receiving section are RF loopback (The BIST Loopback setting is set to '' | + | We can send that out the RF, by disabling loopback and setting the Rx and Tx LO to the same value. The results shown during the receiving section are RF loopback (The BIST Loopback setting is set to '' |
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Receiving is where things can be more complicated. Most (all) integrated transceivers include some sort of Quadrature tracking corrections which try to ensure the signals are correct, and any imperfections in the chip or external circuitry (balun, non-differential traces, etc) are removed. | Receiving is where things can be more complicated. Most (all) integrated transceivers include some sort of Quadrature tracking corrections which try to ensure the signals are correct, and any imperfections in the chip or external circuitry (balun, non-differential traces, etc) are removed. | ||
- | While the frequency domain plot does look close to the same, but we can see that the amplitude is jumping up and down by a few dB. (which is impossible to show in a static picture like this). | + | While the frequency domain plot looks the same, we can see that the amplitude is jumping up and down by a few dB (which is impossible to show in a static picture like this). |
^ Analog Loopback, Frequency Domain, ACG On, Quadrature tracking On ^ | ^ Analog Loopback, Frequency Domain, ACG On, Quadrature tracking On ^ | ||
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- | Its easier to look at this in the time domain. Here the amplitude difference between I & Q is random based on the random difference between the phase of the Rx and Tx PLL. This is indeed completely random, and will change any time either PLL settings are touched. Moving one LO to a different | + | It' |
^ Analog Loopback, Time Domain, I & Q Data, ACG On, Quadrature tracking On | ^ Analog Loopback, Time Domain, I & Q Data, ACG On, Quadrature tracking On | ||
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- | You can change this magnitude difference digitally by post processing the sampled data, by using the Phase Rotation control in IIO oscilloscope. It doesn' | + | You can change this magnitude difference digitally by post-processing the sampled data, by using the Phase Rotation control in IIO oscilloscope. It doesn' |
^ Analog Loopback, Time Domain, I & Q Data ^ | ^ Analog Loopback, Time Domain, I & Q Data ^ | ||
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- | You can see from the data (and the math) that we can rotate I/Q and it doesn' | + | You can see from the data (and the math) that we can rotate I/Q and it doesn' |
By capturing 1048576 samples (or at 3MSPS, 349525.333 us) you can see what looks like some weird sort of steps. These perturbations are caused by two state machines inside the AD9363 fighting against each other. (1) Automatic Gain Control (ACG) and (2) Quadrature tracking corrections. | By capturing 1048576 samples (or at 3MSPS, 349525.333 us) you can see what looks like some weird sort of steps. These perturbations are caused by two state machines inside the AD9363 fighting against each other. (1) Automatic Gain Control (ACG) and (2) Quadrature tracking corrections. | ||
- | ^ Analog Loopback | + | ^ Analog Loopback, Time Domain, I & Q Data, ACG On, Quadrature tracking On ^ |
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- | Here the green signal is the I, and the blue is the overall magnitude. Since, during this run, the I was showing most the the perturbations, | + | Here the green signal is the '' |
The first step is to understand that the ACG is reacting to magnitude changes caused by the Quadrature tracking corrections. Turning the ACG to manual mode can help isolate the effects of the IQ Correction. Here is a picture of the same setup with the ACG set to manual mode. | The first step is to understand that the ACG is reacting to magnitude changes caused by the Quadrature tracking corrections. Turning the ACG to manual mode can help isolate the effects of the IQ Correction. Here is a picture of the same setup with the ACG set to manual mode. | ||
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Here we can see multiple times where the Quadrature tracking corrections are trying to suppress what it believes is an image until it gives up, resets, and starts over. This results in what appears to be amplitude errors in the signal. | Here we can see multiple times where the Quadrature tracking corrections are trying to suppress what it believes is an image until it gives up, resets, and starts over. This results in what appears to be amplitude errors in the signal. | ||
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For those using a National Instruments USRP Radio, this can be controlled via '' | For those using a National Instruments USRP Radio, this can be controlled via '' | ||
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===== Scope ===== | ===== Scope ===== | ||
This issue will exist on all integrated devices which have some sort of Quadrature tracking feature, including all hardware based on ADI and [[https:// | This issue will exist on all integrated devices which have some sort of Quadrature tracking feature, including all hardware based on ADI and [[https:// |